Date: 2005-04-20 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsmogseahorse.livejournal.com
I guess Romero was out of the running? Too bad.

Date: 2005-04-20 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
Ahem. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005050000-2003410036,00.html)

Date: 2005-04-20 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] querrelle.livejournal.com
Life is full of surprises. Doesn't look like he'd be much cop at naked oil wrestling, does he?

Date: 2005-04-20 02:55 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-04-20 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
I just thought you'd react somehow to the link. What is your opinion of it?

Date: 2005-04-20 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
Precisely. There's something so darkly sinister about tabloids that I love them even when they're evil.

Date: 2005-04-20 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feygele.livejournal.com
The thing about him having been a Nazi actually doesn't bug me as much as what his opinions have been during the reign of PJP2. He has never hidden the fact that he was in the Nazis at age 17; but he also deflected (or whatever the proper term is for running away from the army) quickly. He wasn't in the SS, he wasn't in the Hitler Youth. He was forced to join, as most German males were, and unlike most he ran away.

(I can't believe I'm actually defending a former Nazi. Craziness. - I'm just annoyed by how many people are running around with "THE POPE'S A NAZI!!!!!1!" If we're calling him an active Nazi, or someone who willingly joined the Nazis, then we might as well just say that all Germans over the age of 65 are Nazis.)

What the tabloids should be running are lists of Joseph Ratzinger's social/religious opinions. Now *that* is scary.

Date: 2005-04-20 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsmogseahorse.livejournal.com
Le meow! This is why I love you!

Let's face it, he's an escaped nazi war criminal. I wonder how he liked Bolivia?

Date: 2005-04-20 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsmogseahorse.livejournal.com
*Screams like Fay Wray and drops dead, clutching chest*

Inquisition

Date: 2005-04-20 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gorkabear.livejournal.com
I just read in El Pais newspaper what you can read at the Wikipedia:

"In 1981 Cardinal Ratzinger was appointed prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith"

On July 21, 1542 Pope Paul III, with the Constitution Licet ab initio, established the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition, staffed with cardinals and other officials whose task it was "to maintain and defend the integrity of the faith and to examine and proscribe errors and false doctrines".

This body was renamed Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office in 1908 by Pope Pius X. It was changed to Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on December 7, 1965, at the end of the Second Vatican Council. In 1983, with the new code of canon law, "Sacred" was dropped from the names of Vatican Congregations. It has become the supervisory body of local Roman Inquisitions.
"

SO HE'S THE CHIEF OF INQUISITORS!

BTW, I resigned from my "catholic" faith when I was 18. I'm constantly reassured that I did the right thing

Date: 2005-04-20 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
Actually, he WAS in the Hitler Youth. And there are those who would (incorrectly) call his socio-religious views Nazi (they ain't - there isn't a hint of Socialism in any of 'em).

Date: 2005-04-20 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
Too late - it looked cleanish this morning.

Re: Inquisition

Date: 2005-04-20 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gorkabear.livejournal.com
Hum... I respect religions but not churches. Maybe I'm too political in this but after seeing how the Church supported and promoted repression in Spain for many centuries I lost any faith in them.

What's more fun is that though our 1978 Constitution says that we're not a confessional country we have a special relationship with the Catholic Church. You can even assign 0,5% of your taxes to them. Nevertheless 91% of spaniards assign that sum to "Other Social Institutions".

Date: 2005-04-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feygele.livejournal.com
I didn't think Hitler Youth were able to be in the anti-aircraft unit, of which he was a member.

Date: 2005-04-20 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feygele.livejournal.com
And you're right on his views.

It's been pretty much an open secret that as his health declined, John Paul II lost control of the Vatican, and that Ratzinger was running appointments, including appointment of Cardinals. According to my friend's (Catholic Priest) uncle, who admittedly hates Ratzinger's guts, for the past decade or so all these appointments were decided by Ratzinger and rubber-stamped. And in the past few years the pace of new appointments accelerated. So, no surprise, really, that arch-conservative cardinals appointed by an arch-conservative cardinal voted for the man who got them free international travel, good hotels and drivers, and just keeps on delivering.

Date: 2005-04-20 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
Oh yes, Hitler Youth first, add a couple of years, anti-aircraft unit later. Of course at the end of the war the HY were being drafted as nothing more than cannon fodder.

Date: 2005-04-20 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danbearnyc.livejournal.com
The Inquisition, what a show!
The Inquisition, here we go!
We bet you're wishing that we'd go away,
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

Date: 2005-04-20 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feygele.livejournal.com
If you scan through the edit revisions for the entry, you can see that at one point it was a picture of Osama bin Laden. Heh.

Date: 2005-04-20 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feygele.livejournal.com
Specifically:

"It has been claimed that Ratzinger is actually dead, and is being impersonated by Osama bin Laden. If this is true, then that would make Pope Benedict XVI the first non-Catholic to ever serve as Pope."

Date: 2005-04-21 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isledemoi.livejournal.com
He's 78! is this not what we call "an interrim(sp?) appointment"

Date: 2005-04-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isledemoi.livejournal.com
Too many rr's. One must be for repeat! ;)

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