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We are queer men who celebrate our sexuality together—purposefully, affirmatively and joyously. We share pleasure, exploration and knowledge. We are determined to claim our space for that purpose, against those who undermine it.

We are positive and negative; gay, bi and queer; biomale and trans. We are all ages, races, sizes and cultures. We don't discriminate or exploit: when not interested, we decline offers of sex politely; when interested, we say yes enthusiastically.

We are passionate. We are respectful. We pleasure one another. We take care of ourselves and one another.

And we all, as queer men, deserve nothing less.

That's the latest version, building on various contributions (special thanks to [livejournal.com profile] bix02138).

Comments please?
Let's keep this moving...

Date: 2006-05-11 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timbear.livejournal.com
I've kept quiet on this one. I'm afraid that none of it works for me.

Firstly, as I understand your original post and the posts it referenced, this was born out of a distaste for drug culture and the perceived need to protect people from the influences thereof, and also to make it clear that there is a need for gay spaces where drugs/attitude don't intrude. Moreso it seems to me it's an attempt to dissasociate from the people and venues who indulge in such things in order not to be tarnished with the same reputation.

Well, when I read the above statement it doesn't appear to make reference to any of that either directly or indirectly. All I get out of it is "I want to have sex when, where, and with whom takes my fancy" and I have issues with that.

Secondly, while I may not agree with the drugs, unconsidered unprotected sex, etc, is it really my place to tell other people what they can and can't do? Educate them about the risks and if they carry on then that's up to them, not us. This statement in no way educates anybody about such things.

Surely if there are venues that condone the bad behaviours it would be better to "vote with your feet" and not visit those venues while taking time to let the management know why?

But bear in mind that I am completely non-scene, I have very little contact in the real world with the so called "gay community" so I might be missing some important point here, if I am, please educate me. It may be that I'm simply not best placed to understand the issues - but then again, assuming this statement is aimed at straight people or TPTB, neither will they.

On the other hand if it's simply that you are stating to the perpetrators that you don't want their behaviours in your spaces then surely a simple "get your shit out of here" would be more appropriate?

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