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Well that pretty much sums up about 2/3 of my family--except the 'rents, who are Conservatives (not even Republicans). Pennsylvania rather starkly underlines my experience with working class, 2nd+ generation Catholic Americans. Watch those rich bastards, protect our jobs, but easy on the social progress. As one politician in Canada called it, the Timmmy's (Hortons) vs the Starbucks crowd.

They won't vote for Obama for the most part. Not because he's black, but because he's the most left-leaning viable Democratic presidential nominee since George McGovern.

Go on, nominate him. Then just toss the keys to Pennsylvania Avenue over to McCain....

Date: 2008-04-24 04:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] qnetter
Most left-leaning on some issues, perhaps, but clearly not on others -- such as health care.

Date: 2008-04-24 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclemike.livejournal.com
Most of the surveys I've seen show Obama as beating McCain in a one-to-one match in November. Clinton comes up short.

But what the hell do surveys know?

Date: 2008-04-24 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluebear2.livejournal.com
Leftness and rightness is relative. All the U.S. politicians are right wing when compared to any other modern country.

Date: 2008-04-24 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zurcherart.livejournal.com
Go on, nominate him. Then just toss the keys to Pennsylvania Avenue over to McCain....

You make good points, you confused me at the end. Are you saying that it would be more expedient for the American Democratic party to nominate Hillary Clinton to run against McCain, or do you think it doesn't matter who gets the Democrat nomination cause it's going to McCain anyway, or are you just commenting (blustering :-) on things?

Just curious on your "take".

Date: 2008-04-24 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bear-left.livejournal.com
Obama may lose those voters, but I see him winning Virginia and enough of the Mountain West to more than make up the difference. Clinton is running to win the same states that Gore and Kerry won, which seems to me a dubious strategy.

Date: 2008-04-27 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holden-wake.livejournal.com
Just a read an interesting blog post on democratic space on a different view on the Clinton win in Pennsylvania: http://democraticspace.com/blog/2008/04/why-paul-krugman-is-wrong/.

She won the voters who will likely vote Republican anyways. While Obama can win the suburban independent vote which is key to winning for the Democrats.

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